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    sorry for the delay but man u took priority. yyyyeeeeessssssss

    We are in 2019, do you agree? It is a simple question.
    here is a simple answer.....

    what did you not understand with tax relief on bribes still going on in France in 2012?
    what don't you understand with 1800 sex attacks at cologne station in 2016? and just 18 court cases because the law is weak?
    what is it that makes you ignore little facts like many eu countries just blindly ignoring eu regulations and carrying on as before as if nothing happened in 2019?
    kelloggs licences, the list goes on and on but you aspire to stay a member of this political project to form federal europe at any cost?

    The point in reflecting on history is that you see the same trends again and again and again. The uncomfortable truth is that Maggie and the tories were and are right to be cautious about europe and the eu. The fact that your ideology prevents you seeing clearly is your problem but fortunately a MAJORITY in the UK can see through all the smoke screens and socialist nonsense.

    you really do need to re-adjust your selectivity scale. your socialist ideology is so strong it is blocking clear thinking. (it is the same ideology that makes labour unelectable at the moment)
    But I suppose at the end of the day if your city and I'm united (yyyyeeeeesssssss) nothing will ever change that.

    Roll on brexit

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    I do find it ironic Tinsley that you are sat there criticizing other countries laws (and they are State laws, not EU laws), and yet one of the drivers for Brexit support is that it would allow the UK to set it's own laws without supposed interference by the EU no matter how just/unjust, logical/illogical or warranted/unwarranted that law is.

    At the same time you have a Tory, Brexit supporting MP, Christopher Chope, blocking proposed laws on upskirting and FGM on Parliamentary technicalities, which he is also rather inconsistent on depending on who has presented the Bill it would appear. Seems any country or Governement is capable of making or blocking laws no matter how reasonable/unreasonable they are, even without the EU getting involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinsley Green View Post
    what did you not understand with tax relief on bribes still going on in France in 2012?
    That it was in 2012

    what don't you understand with 1800 sex attacks at cologne station in 2016? and just 18 court cases because the law is weak?
    The law was weak, it has changed

    what is it that makes you ignore little facts like many eu countries just blindly ignoring eu regulations and carrying on as before as if nothing happened in 2019?
    Evidence please

    The uncomfortable truth is that Maggie and the tories were and are right to be cautious about europe and the eu. The fact that your ideology prevents you seeing clearly is your problem but fortunately a MAJORITY in the UK can see through all the smoke screens and socialist nonsense.
    How long ago was she asked to step down?

    you really do need to re-adjust your selectivity scale. your socialist ideology is so strong it is blocking clear thinking. (it is the same ideology that makes labour unelectable at the moment)
    you really need to re-adjust your selectivity scale, your nationalist ideology is so strong it is blocking clear thinking. (its the same idology that makes the tories have to rely on others to hold a majority)

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    tg i do believe you have been pwned.


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    hugh i believe you don't have a clue about anything.
    Last edited by Tinsley Green; March 7th, 2019 at 18:45.

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    @tom sawyer

    one of the delights of forums is you can wander miles away from the issue very easily. Our local socialist does it all the time. I will give you one example

    How long ago was she asked to step down?
    this was used to imply the view was invalid or out of date. So how long has 2+2=4?
    or do we dismiss the result as invalid because its been like that for 6 billion years?

    some things just remain what they are....truth

    But to go back to your irony point, there is no irony you have just found it hard to follow the thread on a forum where ideology and untruths are attempting to lead people away from a solid truth, a majority voted brexit.

    The point being is this: our pet amoeba "alber" claimed british industry was killed by "British incompetence and greed". I merely pointed out to the uneducated ideologists that tax relief on bribes in some very large and important european countries (competitors) had been legal prior to our entry into the EEC and for at least 37 of our 44 year membership. It isn't actually confirmed that its stopped.

    This would have undoubtedly influenced competitive edge albeit to a yet unknown level. So its by no means a fact that british incompetence killed of our industry but it is a fact that our european friends have had and may still have a different view on what fair trade means. I think even in the cold light of day I would be very surprised if anybody was trying to compare a completely out of touch tory and his upskirt nonsense with the affect tax relief on bribes had on our trading successes or failures.

    And the fact that our local, apparently knowledgeable socialist came back with nothing more than
    That it was in 2012
    just makes you wonder what thought processes are going on in youngsters heads today.
    So I repeat the point to make it clear, for 37 of our 44 year membership of the EU/EEC we were being heavily undermined by our apparent partners.

    I don't want to be a member of such a club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinsley Green View Post
    just makes you wonder what thought processes are going on in youngsters heads today.
    I would say that their own thoughts are in their heads.

    Mrs Thatcher said some words. That is true. Where those words true, obvioulsy open to whether you support her political position. It isn't hard really.

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    BBC News; Thursday 07 March 2019
    Brexit: Deadline looms as ministers push for changes to deal

    The UK's attorney general says Brexit negotiations will continue as EU officials call for "acceptable" ideas by Friday to break the impasse.

    Geoffrey Cox said plans to solve the deadlock over the Irish backstop were "as clear as day", with just days until MPs vote on the Brexit deal.

    Commons Leader Andrea Leadsom confirmed the vote will be held on 12 March.

    Chancellor Philip Hammond has warned Brexiteers to vote for the deal or face delay to the UK's exit from the EU.

    The backstop is an insurance policy designed to prevent physical checks on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

    Mr Cox, who was in Brussels on Tuesday to push for further changes to the Brexit deal, said talks will "almost certainly" continue through the weekend.

    He said there had been "careful discussions" with the EU and stressed it was government policy to seek the legal changes to the backstop.

    "We are discussing text with the European Union," he said.

    "I am surprised to hear the comments that have emerged over the last 48 hours that the proposals are not clear; they are as clear as day, and we are continuing to discuss them."

    No breakthrough in Brexit talks, says EU
    Brexit negotiations "have been difficult" and "no solution has been identified" to the Irish backstop, the European Commission has said.

    It comes after the latest talks between UK ministers and EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels.

    Commission spokesman Margaritis Schinas said the talks had taken place in a "constructive atmosphere" but there had been no breakthrough.

    The UK is pushing for legally-binding changes to the EU deal.

    Mr Schinas was speaking after Mr Barnier briefed the European Commission's weekly meeting on the state of Brexit talks.

    Speaking after talks with Mr Barnier, the UK's Attorney General Geoffrey Cox said: "Both sides have exchanged robust, strong views. We're now facing the real discussions. Talks will be resuming soon."

    He added: "We're into the meat of the matter, we've put forward very reasonable proposals."
    Full Report: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47481872

    NS Comment: Remoaners are making this exit rather undignified. As for the EU, still showing the same intrasigence which propelled the drive to Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Smoking View Post
    NS Comment: Remoaners are making this exit rather undignified. As for the EU, still showing the same intrasigence which propelled the drive to Brexit.
    As I am not a politician and have no influence over the outcome next week’s vote, I will state my position. I support leaving on the terms of the withdrawal agreement and any further enhancements the PM can achieve. I would not risk no deal against the chance of a second referendum.

    Amber Rudd and clumsy language? Definately stuck in the past.........

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    My view for what it's worth is the EU have made this a lot harder than it needed to be combined with a dismal performance from our "elected" representatives. The EU had a vested interest in making this process as hard as possible to ensure no one else stepped out of line. This could have been the beginning of the end for the great Fedral European State and bonkers ideas like a European army. Unfortunately we have been out manouvered by Barnier and his cronies while our politicians have just bickerd and sqaubbled amongst themselves.


    As for the Amber Rudd "outrage" blar blar blar, just another excuse to be outraged....

    I have heard "history" mentioned many times, it's gone, done and dusted. I am more interested in the future..... and that future is to be outside of the EU, well it better had be, the "UK" voted out!
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